Review how the ORCID Registry stores and displays names

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  • Martin Fenner
    The W3C published a very good article on this topic last year: http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-personal-names Middle names are popular in the US, but not necessary in other countries. Having them as form fields might confuse users, e.g. in those countries where people have two last names.
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  • David W. Lawrence
    If not a field, please establish a data entry standard for these name suffixes.
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  • David W. Lawrence
    Please change this data-entry semicolon-separated system for one that uses name fields. I commented elsewhere that the current system risks contributing to more name ambiguity instead of less. Name order differs by culture. There are universal standards for cataloging author names (ISNI, Anglo-American Cataloging Rules, and others) that provide form structures for data entry. These standards allow for almost any naming convention.
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  • ORCID
    COMMENT FROM DAVID LAWRENCE (via Basecamp): Declined request concerning author names I'm not sure of Martin Fenner's role with ORCID. I would like to send a copy of this message to him but I couldn't find his address listed. While I agree that there are many cultural, linguistic, national, and other conventions concerning names; I believe that is an argument for establishing some formal structure and guidance to facilitate author name entry. For proper name disambiguation, each author should enter all of the forms his or her name can take on published works. The page for editing the personal record doesn't provide proper guidance to help a record holder disambiguate his or her name from other similar names. A simple request to "enter all versions of your name that are connected to your works or how you are represented in databases or indexes" or some such statement would go a long way to making ORCID more useful to authors from all cultures. The questions and recommendations that were discussed on the link M Fenner provided: http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-personal-names do not apply to the ORCID system but were intended to facilitate form creation for personalizing web pages for visitors and for setting the proper greeting for messages. ORCID doesn't need to be concerned that record-holders will be insulted by poorly done automatic parsing of an author's name. What is needed is simple guidance to help authors to include all the ways their name may be represented. We need to know something about name order as it appears on publications or in databases. Ideally, we should know about publisher errors in presenting an author's name. We need to allow for authors with one single name. We need to allow for transliterations and sometimes for more than one transliteration method. There must be a way for generational aspects of a name to be represented. There should be a way for authors to express their preference for how name particles (de, von, etc.) should be handled. There must be allowances for multiple spellings of non-English names See: http://support.orcid.org/forums/175591-general/suggestions/3284035-allow-for-non-ascii-characters-in-search It would be helpful to allow authors to indicate how they would prefer their name to be listed in an ordered list. There must be a way to allow for single-character names (not only for author names in other language systems and alphabets but also for authors with very unusual names--Peri 6, the British social scientist, comes to mind. Most of those who request an ORCID record will be educated academics. The current ORCID name entry contains very little guidance. A bit of explanation for the purpose of including multiple name forms will go a long way to the elimination of misunderstandings. Simply requesting all of ways their name has appeared will be an improvement. I can point to authors who have different representations in the Library of Congress, the British Library, the (US) National Library of Medicine, and CiNii. An author may not even realize that she or he has "extra" names. Maybe ORCID can't fix that problem but most other name problems could be eliminated if record-holders receive some guidance on entering multiple names.
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  • Martin Fenner
    David, thank you for your comments. The best way forward seems to be to a) improve the documentation (e.g. in the Knowledge Base) on how to enter names and b) review how the registry stores and display names. The latter might take a bit more time. Kind regards, Martin
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  • Will Wilcox
    Thanks for the reply. I was thinking more along the lines of a field that was exclusive to this function, and semantically identified the text as a version of the name in native script. I'm assuming that the Other Names field is free-text and could also be used for nicknames (as I have for mine) and other uncontrolled content that would diminish the usefulness of the information for automatic retrieval. Many thanks
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  • ORCID
    Thanks for following up. I'm going to merge this idea and your comment as part of a large card about reviewing how names are stored in the ORCID Registry. We'll review your suggestion as part of a larger consideration of how to handle names.
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  • J Kurjian
    The last comment on this topic was about a year and a half ago. As the long comment below states, there should be better guidelines for users, ideally ones they have to adhere to, and greater structure, in the form of types of name fields rather strings separated by haphazard punctuation. Otherwise the free text in many case will become a big mess. It would be good to fix this issue sooner rather than later, before the number of Orcid users become too big to fix it.
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  • ORCID
    Hi J Kurjian, Thanks for your comments. We've tried to clarify how to enter names in the documentation but if you think it is still confusing please let us know your suggestions to improve it. Also, punctuation is not used to separate names in any of the fields- but we would would be open to any suggestions you have on how better to capture names. Best, -Catalina ORCID Support
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  • Joel David Hamkins
    I tried to register, but your name fields include only "first name" and "last name", but I always use also my middle name. Should I include it (with a space) with the first name, or what? It seems peculiar for a site that I am given to understand is all about author identity to not allow me to enter my name in a sensible manner.
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  • ORCID (APAC)
    Thanks for your comment Joel. For middle names, our recommended practices is that you list your given and family name as your first and last name, and then include your middle name in the published name field. The published name field will be the field that always displays on the top left of your ORCID record. Warm regards, ORCID Community Engagement and Support
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  • Alainna Wrigley

    Thanks for everyone's suggestions. We've incorporated the ability to support many of the features suggested, e.g.:

    * Support for non-Latin character encodings for names
    * A credit/published name field that displays the version of the name you want to be shown on your record, including middle names (initials) and suffixes
    * The ability to list multiple versions of your name in the "also known as" field, and reorder them

    For more on names in the ORCID Registry, see:
    https://support.orcid.org/knowledgebase/articles/142948

    Warm regards,
    ORCID Community Team

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